Jokelore, RL Baker;
Summary;
A collection of jokes the almost exclusively pokes fun at 'Kentuckians'. When a Hoosier is mentioned in the joke, they are seen as being superior in some way.
Reactions;
I was surprised at the number of jokes that I had heard, but not dealing with Kentuckians. For example, I had heard almost the exact same joke about jumping out of a plane before, but instead of a Hoosier and a Kentuckian, it was an American and a German with a punchline about WWII.
Q&A;
How man of these are switched in Kentucky?
Most of the jokes were based on the idea of Kentuckians being 'stupid', why the common theme?
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Indiana Storyteller, Various
Summary;
A large collections of stories about a wide variety of topics. It is speculated if the stories are that - just stories, or if they're some truth to them.
Reactions;
I had not heard a single story listed here or any variation of them. I did appreciate that an attempt to capture the accent was made - words were spelled as they sound, not as they're actually spelled.
Q&A;
I was once told that to be a good story teller, one must be a good lair. How true is that statement?
Is there a difference between telling a story, and telling a truth?
Saturday, January 26, 2013
Saturday, January 19, 2013
Indy Folklore post 2
Place Legends, by Ronald L Baker
Summary:
This was a collection of short stories in regards to a place called Blue Hole in Praireton, IN; Halfmoon Springs (which may also be Blue Hole?) and speculations on where the state nickname, 'Hoosier', originated.
Response:
I've never even heard of Blue Hole, which is kind of disappointing as there seems to be about 6 stories or so about the place. Now the name 'hoosier' I've heard a few about. I've heard the 'who's your daddy' one and the 'who's there' one. I hadn't heard the ones that talked about different cultures naming us, which makes me wonder....
Questions:
1. Have I not heard of other cultures naming us because we'd prefer to think we "named ourselves?"
2. If the Blue Hole is so dangerous, why do we keep going there?
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Folk Sayings from Indiana by PG Brewster.
Summary:
A collection of sayings found in Indy's southside around 1938.
Response:
As I read through these, I'd tick them off in my head: heard that one, never heard that one, heard something similar and so on. It was kind of fun to see which ones had changed, fallen out of use or were exactly the same.
Questions:
1. How regional is this?
2. How much did the times (1930s-1940s) influence these sayings?
3. How common is modernization of traditional sayings?
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More Indiana Sayings by PG Brewster.
Summary:
A collection of saying from Indiana, from the same time and setting as the previous article. In this article, similarities to other state's sayings were also noted and in the case of Missouri, marked.
Response:
Again, I did a lot of nodding and 'hum'ing and 'hah'ing over this. It was also fun to note which ones were also used in Missouri.
Questions:
1. Why does there seem to be 'universal' sayings? Such as 'raining cats and dogs'?
2. Most of these sayings make no sense in a practical setting, how did they come about?
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Notes on Indiana Speech by VE Gibbens
Summary:
Gibbens talked about several 'normal' words and a few not so normal words, on how hoosiers use them in a completely different context. For example, the words 'any more' used as an affirmative word ("I'm done with this any more") in stead of "Do you have any more" or something similar.
Response:
Out of all these sayings, I only recognized maybe three. I did like how he talked about the possible origins or different versions of the sayings, but I was kind of disappointed that I didn't recognize most of them. There were several however, that were also noted in the other two articles.
Questions:
1. How can one speculate the origin of these sayings?
2. How can sayings/ways of speech seem to 'skip states'. That is, something similar is said in Nebraska and Indiana, but not between?
Summary:
This was a collection of short stories in regards to a place called Blue Hole in Praireton, IN; Halfmoon Springs (which may also be Blue Hole?) and speculations on where the state nickname, 'Hoosier', originated.
Response:
I've never even heard of Blue Hole, which is kind of disappointing as there seems to be about 6 stories or so about the place. Now the name 'hoosier' I've heard a few about. I've heard the 'who's your daddy' one and the 'who's there' one. I hadn't heard the ones that talked about different cultures naming us, which makes me wonder....
Questions:
1. Have I not heard of other cultures naming us because we'd prefer to think we "named ourselves?"
2. If the Blue Hole is so dangerous, why do we keep going there?
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Folk Sayings from Indiana by PG Brewster.
Summary:
A collection of sayings found in Indy's southside around 1938.
Response:
As I read through these, I'd tick them off in my head: heard that one, never heard that one, heard something similar and so on. It was kind of fun to see which ones had changed, fallen out of use or were exactly the same.
Questions:
1. How regional is this?
2. How much did the times (1930s-1940s) influence these sayings?
3. How common is modernization of traditional sayings?
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More Indiana Sayings by PG Brewster.
Summary:
A collection of saying from Indiana, from the same time and setting as the previous article. In this article, similarities to other state's sayings were also noted and in the case of Missouri, marked.
Response:
Again, I did a lot of nodding and 'hum'ing and 'hah'ing over this. It was also fun to note which ones were also used in Missouri.
Questions:
1. Why does there seem to be 'universal' sayings? Such as 'raining cats and dogs'?
2. Most of these sayings make no sense in a practical setting, how did they come about?
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Notes on Indiana Speech by VE Gibbens
Summary:
Gibbens talked about several 'normal' words and a few not so normal words, on how hoosiers use them in a completely different context. For example, the words 'any more' used as an affirmative word ("I'm done with this any more") in stead of "Do you have any more" or something similar.
Response:
Out of all these sayings, I only recognized maybe three. I did like how he talked about the possible origins or different versions of the sayings, but I was kind of disappointed that I didn't recognize most of them. There were several however, that were also noted in the other two articles.
Questions:
1. How can one speculate the origin of these sayings?
2. How can sayings/ways of speech seem to 'skip states'. That is, something similar is said in Nebraska and Indiana, but not between?
Odessey (Castleton) and New Orleans on the Avenue (Indianapolis)
It's been a while but recently I've come across a few photos of places I never posted about.
First, The Odyssey. It's located on 82nd street in Castleton, across from the mall's east side. It serves mainly Greek few, but has quite a few American dishes as well.
I love this place. I love Greek food and this place is no exception. I got my order to go, and here's my order:
Greek salad. The house dressing was wonderful, not too acidic but having a bite. If you dine in, it's unlimited along with their bread.
Their bread is also fresh, with a herb flavoring and a mild salt. It's served with their olive oil - the only thing I wasn't very found of. The oil is kind of bland, even with the seasonings they add too it.
My main dish was actually an appetizer: a sampler platter. I got feta cheese, some type of rice thing and olives. They were great! Filled my up completely!
The best part? The place is pretty cheap. I also got Mediterranean octopus (not shown) wish was wonderful. My total order came out to be around ~$20, which is just as much as Olive Garden. Definatly going back!
Their website: http://www.odysseygrillandbar.com/
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Next, New Orleans on the Avenue. Now I went to this during last year's Mardi Gras with a friend of mine. We were seated immediately even with the crowd. The place has a really 'fresh' layout but it's a little crowded (maybe because of holiday??)
Everyone is also very nice and polite!
They had a special menu for Mardi Gras, so I ordered the unlimited catfish.
As you can see from the large portion, I didn't get a second helping. I actually ended up taking most of it home. The breading was great- not greasy, not thick and just the right amount of crunchy! I also loved their fries! They're seasoned and again, not greasy or mushy just crunchy awesome!
I will be going back here too, when I have the time! Good ol'Cajun cookin'!!
Their website: http://www.neworleansontheavenue.com/
First, The Odyssey. It's located on 82nd street in Castleton, across from the mall's east side. It serves mainly Greek few, but has quite a few American dishes as well.
I love this place. I love Greek food and this place is no exception. I got my order to go, and here's my order:
The best part? The place is pretty cheap. I also got Mediterranean octopus (not shown) wish was wonderful. My total order came out to be around ~$20, which is just as much as Olive Garden. Definatly going back!
Their website: http://www.odysseygrillandbar.com/
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Next, New Orleans on the Avenue. Now I went to this during last year's Mardi Gras with a friend of mine. We were seated immediately even with the crowd. The place has a really 'fresh' layout but it's a little crowded (maybe because of holiday??)
Everyone is also very nice and polite!
They had a special menu for Mardi Gras, so I ordered the unlimited catfish.
I will be going back here too, when I have the time! Good ol'Cajun cookin'!!
Their website: http://www.neworleansontheavenue.com/
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Summary: Bill Ivey and R.M. Dorson
First, let us start on Bill Ivey's Folklore, Art and Indiana:
Summary:
First of all, this was a speech, not a article, which meant I read the whole thing in Morgan Freeman's voice. Don't ask. In his speech, he spoke mostly on the history of Folklore at IU and how the program became "one of the most influential folklore program in the world." He mentioned specific people and how they helped further or bring about the program, most notably Tom Benton who drew a mural depicting Indiana's history.
Response:
As a speech, I tried to imagine my reaction if it had been given in real life and I had been sitting in the seats. I most likely would of fallen asleep. It's not funny, dramatic or very entertaining. It very much follows the format of an acceptance speech and as such, is filled with personal plug-ins, naming of important people and historical data that only diehards are interested in. It would of been nice if he had talked about Indiana's actual folklore or history versus the program's, but that wasn't the case.
Questions to consider:
1. There were a lot of facts and encouragement to further research, but Ivey didn't really mention his own personal feelings a lot. What does he like about Indy? About Bloomington?
2. He stated IU's program was one of the most influential in the world. Why?
3. Tom Benton was talked about a lot, along with his painting. It's mentioned that he isn't a Indiana native and his work was attacked because of this. What would a native have drawn in comparison to his work?
Pictures of the mural: http://www.iub.edu/~iuam/online_modules/benton/teachlearn.html
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Richard M. Dorson's Doing Fieldwork in the City:
Summary:
Is this guy crazy? Gary?! He's lucky to be alive! I love how he talked about the different people and the attitudes they had, but he makes Gary seem friendly and anyone who lives in Indiana knows it's a pretty dangerous place. The steel mills alone are dangerous, not to mention the local tendency for murder. I may traverse up there at one point to eat at Jennie's, which sounds like an interesting eatery.
The essay mostly talked about the locals, and later on his methods of collecting information. The majority of the essay focused on the local's way of life, culture, ethnicity and economic situation.
Response:
This was much more interesting then the previous article, as it focused more on the locals the on the history of a school's program. It was also funny to read as many things he mentioned had me shaking my head in acknowledgement - yes, Gary is like that and yes Indiana is like this or that.
Questions:
1. Why this region? It mentioned he was interested in black steel workers, by why this area?
2. There was no mention of the darker side of Gary. Why?
3. He's very close to the coast of the Great Lakes, but there was no mention of it. Surely coastal folklore is different then mainland?
Summary:
First of all, this was a speech, not a article, which meant I read the whole thing in Morgan Freeman's voice. Don't ask. In his speech, he spoke mostly on the history of Folklore at IU and how the program became "one of the most influential folklore program in the world." He mentioned specific people and how they helped further or bring about the program, most notably Tom Benton who drew a mural depicting Indiana's history.
Response:
As a speech, I tried to imagine my reaction if it had been given in real life and I had been sitting in the seats. I most likely would of fallen asleep. It's not funny, dramatic or very entertaining. It very much follows the format of an acceptance speech and as such, is filled with personal plug-ins, naming of important people and historical data that only diehards are interested in. It would of been nice if he had talked about Indiana's actual folklore or history versus the program's, but that wasn't the case.
Questions to consider:
1. There were a lot of facts and encouragement to further research, but Ivey didn't really mention his own personal feelings a lot. What does he like about Indy? About Bloomington?
2. He stated IU's program was one of the most influential in the world. Why?
3. Tom Benton was talked about a lot, along with his painting. It's mentioned that he isn't a Indiana native and his work was attacked because of this. What would a native have drawn in comparison to his work?
Pictures of the mural: http://www.iub.edu/~iuam/online_modules/benton/teachlearn.html
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Richard M. Dorson's Doing Fieldwork in the City:
Summary:
Is this guy crazy? Gary?! He's lucky to be alive! I love how he talked about the different people and the attitudes they had, but he makes Gary seem friendly and anyone who lives in Indiana knows it's a pretty dangerous place. The steel mills alone are dangerous, not to mention the local tendency for murder. I may traverse up there at one point to eat at Jennie's, which sounds like an interesting eatery.
The essay mostly talked about the locals, and later on his methods of collecting information. The majority of the essay focused on the local's way of life, culture, ethnicity and economic situation.
Response:
This was much more interesting then the previous article, as it focused more on the locals the on the history of a school's program. It was also funny to read as many things he mentioned had me shaking my head in acknowledgement - yes, Gary is like that and yes Indiana is like this or that.
Questions:
1. Why this region? It mentioned he was interested in black steel workers, by why this area?
2. There was no mention of the darker side of Gary. Why?
3. He's very close to the coast of the Great Lakes, but there was no mention of it. Surely coastal folklore is different then mainland?
Friday, January 11, 2013
Lack of Updates
Since one of my classes, Indiana Folklore, requires to me to use my blog I will be updating more frequently. However, since I'm still a starving student and don't seem to be eating out to anywhere noteworthy the posts are mostly going to be of articles.
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